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Vista, Office 2007, and DMX WebDAV
Last Post 01/17/2008 10:06 AM by Peter Donker. 13 Replies.
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Peter Donker
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12/08/2007 12:06 PM

Hi All,

Check this post for a backgrounder: http://www.bring2mind.net...ryID/27/Default.aspx

I've spent some time trying to test all Vista/Office 2007 scenarios given the fact that more and more users are going to try this software. Here are some notes relating to WebDAV. If you have any experiences to add to this, please add them.

Opening a folder through the IE interface
Now, about WebDAV. In all its infinite wisdom MS has decided to change the WebDAV clients that come with Windows and/or Office. I say 'and/or' because I'm still figuring out which part is blocking me here. For sure the Windows client has changed and it will prevent Vista from opening up a web folder through IE. Check out this post: http://www.tabletquestion...upported-vista.html. From this you'll appreciate that "this is a shortcoming of the WebDAV redirector and we do plan on fixing this in the next release. I apologize for the inconvenience caused."

Saving a document from Office 2007
A second stumbling block is saving a document. The webdav client is able to open a document through the IE interface, but not to save it (even though it is not marked as read-only). Currently I don't know if this is a Office 2007 issue or a Windows Vista issue. What is important to know is that this is not a configuration mistake on your behalf.

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I have been using DMX 04.01.00 for this. It includes some enhancements and bugfixes in the webdav part to help here. Note that you can add WebDAV as a 'network place' under vista as you're used to under XP. Go to 'Map Network Drive' and either enter the address there.

 

Henning O. Lutz
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12/11/2007 2:31 PM

Folks,

to add a new flavour to this discussion, this is what is logged on the server when I try to open an already uploaded document from a subdirectory in DMX (I work with Vista and Office 2007):

----------------- Started: 12/11/2007 1:35:19 PM -----------------
GET /dmxdav.axd/NewWorldVision/Projektdokumentation/Test.doc
Connection: Keep-Alive
Accept: */*
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Cookie: .ASPXANONYMOUS=r3j-EiNxyAEkAAAAMWFmYzY1ZGEtNjI1Ni00MjZjLTkxOTUtYTlkNTBkNjBhYjlj0; DotNetNukeAnonymous=19793361-2465-4d93-85fa-d553b2c9120f; dnnc_panel=max; dnnc_position=fix
Host: abundanthope.de
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.0.04506; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; InfoPath.2; MSOffice 12)
UA-CPU: x86

Content-Length: 391168
Accept-Ranges: bytes
200 OK
Content-Type: application/msword
Last-Modified: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:11:44 GMT
420 Access Denied
Content-Length: 0
Content-Length: 0
----------------- Finished: 12/11/2007 1:35:19 PM -----------------

I have installed the latest module version and triple-checked IIS settings, host settings and authorization inside my DMX module placed on the portal. I also read several posts here in the forum but could make the thing work.

As I would like to offer these super-cool features of DMX to my users and co-workers, I would be glad to get a solution soon ...

Thanks in advance!

Best regards,
Henning

Henning O. Lutz
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12/11/2007 3:28 PM

I should add that I just found out another strange behaviour. Downloading single files works fine. But "Zip and download" of an entire folder results in forcing a new DNN signon and an empty zip file.

For my understanding, this indicates that the reason for all this mess is a failure in the authorization handling for folders. Which might reside in the code or be caused by my installation. Anyhow, any hint is highly appreciated ...

Best regards,
Henning

Peter Donker
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12/12/2007 11:42 AM
Hi Henning,

Regarding the webdav: can you verify it DOES work with XP/Office2003? Then we narrow this case down to Vista/Office2007.

Regarding the zip download: I'll try to reproduce here.

Peter
Henning O. Lutz
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12/12/2007 1:24 PM

Hi Peter,

I did some additional testing and installed several updates on the server and on my client. First, a positive result: After upgrading to DNN 4.7, "Zip and Download" of an entire DMX folder works fine.

And here are the results of my additional tests.

I installed all recent updates (including Office 2007 SP1) and did the following tests:

  • After a fresh start, trying to load a .doc and a .txt file from the DMX repository by means of a direct URL from IE results in requesting username/pwd and failure.
  • Trying the above AFTER starting the portal and signing on to it has the same results (which means that there is no caching of credentials)
  • Opening the Word document from inside Word 2007 doesn't work.
  • Option "Open in Explorer" for a DMX folder doesn't work
  • Trying to open the document from the portal results in a "hanging" instance of WINWORD.EXE.

Trying to open the .txt file directly on the server (with installed IE 7.0) shows the same behaviour: It asks for username/pwd, then works a while and stops with a failure.

I will now check the log and make an additional reply with the results.

Best regards,
Henning

Henning O. Lutz
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12/12/2007 1:54 PM

Hi Peter,

here are the "condensed" results:

  • HEAD with a file is o.k.
  • GET with a file results in 420 Access denied
  • PROPFIND with DMX root (dmxdav.axd) is o.k.
  • PROPFIND with a folder inside the repository results in 420 Access denied

Please send me a piece of email if you wish the detailed report.

And please advise what to do ...

Best regards,
Henning

Peter Donker
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12/12/2007 8:12 PM
Hi Henning,

Set your DMX to 'debug' mode (log in as host and go to DMX menu > Main Options). You'll see the DMX/Log fill up with log files from webdav. This is good to keep with the rest.

In the meantime I'll try to replicate your experiments and findings.

Cheers,

Peter
Henning O. Lutz
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12/18/2007 12:57 PM

Hi Peter,

the findings from the reply to you came from the log - I turned it already on. And I prepared a compilation for your reference. I would like to get things improved as in the current state, the module is useless for me. Please adivse ... and thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Henning

Peter Donker
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12/18/2007 7:56 PM
Can you send me the log?
Peter
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12/19/2007 8:23 PM

While working on this I have found a few more posts that make my heart sink:

http://www.technologyques...e-office-2007-a.html

http://www.technologyques...fice-2007-vista.html

So from the first my finding that Word won't save is something that might not be resolved without MS providing a patch. The second concerns repeated logins. I've seen an extra login prompt when I wasn't expecting one, but not as bad as this poster had it. I'll keep an eye on that.

Peter

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01/05/2008 8:55 AM
Peter:
Is this patch for WebDAV of any value:

http://www.microsoft.com/...D1D64&displaylang=en
Peter Donker
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01/08/2008 8:05 PM

Thanks for that Laverne and happy new year! I'll test this one soon. It looks like it is the MS response to this issue. It was determined that the lack of the Web Folders support was causing many WebDAV clients to break. If anyone has tried it with Vista, please let us know in this thread.

Peter

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01/16/2008 3:50 PM
I have been having similar problems with Vista and WebDav. In our application, we can successfully open Office Documents from the WebDav folder, but they all open as "Read-Only". We have tried the patch that Microsoft suggested without any luck. We have tried SP1 of Vista, but that did not fix the problem either. We only get two requests in our HTTP handler, GET and HEAD (in that order). If I connect to the Vista server from an XP machine, everything works as expected, the Office Document opens as read/write and we recieve OPTIONS, OPTIONS, LOCK, GET (in that order). Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.
Peter Donker
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01/17/2008 10:06 AM
Hi Bob,

This is top of our priority list here. As more and more people switch to Vista this is going to be more pressing. Frankly I'm dissappointed by the complete lack of support by Microsoft on this. I've launched several threads in various forums and until now no official response. It leaves no other option than to do reverse engineering.

Peter
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